Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1971-12-31
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- 2004-06-06 19:33:32
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- San Francisco, CA
- Soundboard - FM
- Winterland Arena
Subject: Who has the un-edited soundboard/broadcast?
There's a great Bobby rap that has been cut out of this edited upload - I wish someone would upload an un-edited version to the archive. As I recall it: Bobby: "Well I hope to tell you this stage is a fucking mess, and if you've got bare feet, don't get near it....... And a big hello to all you folks listening out there in Radioland, now that I was just informed that we're on the radio." Jerry: "And you too, Mr. HOOVER!" (J.Edgar Hoover, evil head of the FBI, for you young'uns.) Bobby: "I 'll tell you all a little story......It seems that way back in 1956, J Edgar Hoover and Dwight Eisenhower and a bunch of those guys had a little conspiracy plot... ...and what happened was they all got together and decided there weren't gonna be no more New years, it was gonna stay 1956 til the end of time.... and, well, they did it, and you people have all been duped, and it's really 1956, although it's nothing to get excited about..... Now we're gonna tune up." Kudos to Bobby - a funny riff to blow the minds of a room full of peaking acidheads. Also edited out was the moment later in the first set when Bobby explained that the organ and piano weren't in tune with each other, and they were going to have to decide which to tune to, a problem with hammond organs in rooms with bad power regulation, because they require close to spot on 110 voltage to play in tune, which explains why there's no Pigpen organ along with Keith's piano, as there had been throughout the Europe tour for example.
I listened to the broadcast live and taped it onto a little cassette player, giving me a headstart as a 14 year old guitar player learning all the new tunes that would appear over a year later on Europe '72 in slower, vocally emasculated versions - in addition to re-recording the vocals on the 'live' triple LP in the studio post production, it sounds to me like they slowed down the masters slightly to record the vocals at a slightly lower, easier to nail pitch, then sped it all back up to 'normal', resulting in an unnatural, slightly chipmunky vocal sound. This show was always a benchmark for tougher, cooler versions, especially vocally.
Subject: Smaller scale - diapers
The 3rd NYE at Winterland (2nd that was taped) is known for having the first Big River and Chinatown Shuffle, as well as the last Dancin' (until '76). Same Thing hadn't been played since '67 and this was the last Pigpen version, Bobby taking it up again 20 years later. This is also the first show with Donna, though she's not a big presence. She would officially join at the upcoming Academy shows.
First Set. It's actually '72, and Bobby isn't happy with the balloons on stage (he later admitted he wasn't a fan of the NYE parties and the balloon drop). Unfortunately the first song has a voice-over from an idiot. Jer is a genius on the 2nd measure of Mr. Charlie. The good Brown-Eyed Women is uptempo (even after pitch correction) but Beat it On Down the Line-7+2 is a bit slopped. Note that the approach to You Win Again changed right after this, for '72. The set is then average-to-rough until Tennessee. Also uptempo, Jer gets a little lost but still whips one out by t'end. You wouldn't expect the first Chinatown to be a great one. By Mexicali they're just not gelling - though NYE shows are usually pretty scattered. I like that Phil is pseudmotorik in places in China Cat, giving it a forward lean and simultaneous lowride cool, despite the lack of tight playing this set. From here through Rider is the best jamming of the set. There's a few-second glitch in Playing in the Band @3:40. It has a concise jam - but tight Dead it's not. Loser-SS is better but One More Saturday is weirdly tentative compared to months later. It has the "young and crazy can't see reason one" lyric and the 1st Donna appearance - though you can't really hear her.
Second Set. 1st they play a Stars & Stripes Forever while asking Graham to the stage, then Keith plays a Charge! Fanfare. Things first improve on The Other One. Interestingly, it already sounds very E72, and it doesn't lyrically resolve before Me & My Uncle. On the latter, Bobby plays in the key, Jer signals the opening notes, and Bobby then launches the lyrics directly - it's really cool. Billy pushes to go back into The Other One. Weirdly, it breaks down again after the verse, when Bobby stops and then Billy, before an interesting Jam into Black Peter. There's a brief segue missing on both this source and the official release, after Jer does the opening chords for Black Peter the first time, before it dissolves into the jam. Bobby follows him, but nobody else does, then Jer drops it for a couple minutes. It's an interesting, sort-of-unique section, but Black Peter is just average. Note the placement of the first Big River. Unfortunately a bit of the beginning is cut, but it's not bad - Jer already knew where to go with it. On this version, Jer takes the 2nd verse (though he forgets it), and Billy plays a shuffle - they would change this when they brought it back. In the meantime, they dropped it, not playing it through E72 (they diddled with it during soundcheck at Luxembourg, with Jer singing), finally bringing it back in Boston in September, with Bobby singing. The Same Thing is plucked back into existence but it seems they have to wing it a bit as a result. Even though it's now the wee hours, the rest of the show is best. Ramble is still pretty uptempo after pitch correction, and the end jam of Sugar Magnolia is great and very '71. Jer's fills are what makes Not Fade (Bobby being a ways out of tune). Jer is then way warmed up for Goin' Down the Road. His playing here echoes '67 (maybe from playing Same Thing again?). Neither the best nor the worst of the seven 70s NYE shows .
1st Set: C
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 3 stars
There are some tidbits of historical nature but otherwise>
Mr. Charlie - tightest of the night
Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad - Jer at his most fluid; echoes of '67
SOURCES: The lanum.135 source is from the FM broadcast but is culled from sources transferred at different speeds, so the pitch is all over the place - from fast to helium fast. The First Set needs -1% from Dancin' through You Win Again. Jack Straw and Sugaree need -2%, then El Paso speeds way up, needing -3%. Chinatown Shuffle is hyperspeed and needs -4%. Tennessee then needs -2%. Mexicali through Next Time plus One More Saturday Night need -3%. But, in between, Playing and Loser only need -1%. The second set doesn't run as crazy fast but still requires correction of -2%, except for the first three (Truckin>Drums>TOO) and Casey Jones, which need -1% (MaMU has a slow pitch change). The end of TOO jam and Black Peter are on some copies of The Closing of Winterland.
Subject: definitive hi hat china cat
jam into rider hasn't gotten the treatment yet here that it later recieves, but that cat is stellar
Subject: welcome to 1972
There's a few other flaming hot shows in December of 1971 (the Felt Forum show on the 5th leaps immediately to mind) but this show belongs in a class by itself because of the Dancin' opening (the last version without Mickey), the great Pigpen numbers, and the way that it just keeps getting better.
Would it be wrong to suggest that the version of the Other One here is the "weakest" part of the show (the scorching version of Uncle in the middle notwithstanding)?
It's all good but the versions of Jack Straw, Mexicali, Sugar Mag and especially -- most especially -- the NFA->GDTRFB->NFA deserve special mention.
No doubt the Dead converted a bunch of new fans with this broadcast. Well played!
Subject: great new year
Subject: This stuff rocks
Pigpen sounds really good in Chinatown Shuffle.
I have to agree with verylazylightning & topher98. I am almost 16 years old and I'm italian. When I started to listen to the Dead I felt like I had already heard many of their songs (Truckin', Cumberland Blues, Sugar Magnolia, Greatest Story Ever Told...), although this is impossible, because the Dead is an unknown band in Italy and I'm too young.
Subject: topher98 asks
Subject: Gorgeous show and wonderful recording + commentary by KSAN'
This high energy presentation of the "new material" with Pigpen very much in the surge is great: even if they hadn't figured out all the details on having a piano in the mix.
Then too, but for one lone gap, the recording is flawless: a far cry from being on the receiving end of too many scratchy New Year's Eve Pacifica broadcasts over the years to come. That, and the KSAN commentary is VERY NICE. (Just don't hear that inflection any more . . . )
Subject: Winterland Arena
Subject: That Ol' Same Thing -- a Five
When we entered the hall that night the place was already packed but we managed to find some nice seats elevated above the floor under the overhang directly in line with the stage. The GD didn't start until midnight so technically this is a 1-1-72 show.
Amusing is Bill Graham's use of "fucking" over KSAN's airwaves while telling Billy to stop warming up before he introduces them for the start of the second set. I guess no one from the FCC was paying attention.
Lots of good and unusual versions of songs, but for my money the best song on the tape is "The Same Thing." Pigpen's singing is prime and the band accompanies him perfectly. There's a certain palpable ambience about the sound of this song that really comes through.
Rate this a 4.5 for sound and the same thing for performance
Subject: 10 stars if I could...
Desert-island stuff, folks.
Subject: This show rocks!
It is energetic and inspired.
This is why the Dead were great.
Subject: end of '71
Now let's talk about progress. Kudos to whomever for not breaking China Cat/Rider into two tracks. But those who have the original FM broadcast on reel or cassette will hear the evening's main piece (Truckin'>Other One>MAMU>Other One>Black Peter) without the five interruptions (track changes) we must endure on this site. Surely there must be some way this can be fixed, no?
Subject: House PA tune?
Subject: uh um um man
if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have figured out how to download soundboards before they revamped this site
Subject: Recording needs help
Subject: @ oh_uh_um_ah
Go away, man
Subject: Issue with content????
If you have a copy, please email me @ conrad314@Hotmail.com
Subject: Where are the keys?
Subject: a request
Subject: Great Great Show
Elvis, I really enjoyed your story. I second the book idea. fredg can go pound salt...
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live In Concert" at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, U.S.A.
~ December 31, 1971 New Years Eve at Winterland ~
Superduper 71' Soundboard.
"Classic 1971 Sound"
Home for New Years Eve, the GRATEFUL DEAD are fresh and full of energy and perform a "Killer" show before the hometown crowd.
Bill Graham reminds us during this show, that the GRATEFUL DEAD would contact FM Radio stations in the cities where they performed and make arrangements for their concerts to be broadcast on the radio "live & in stereo" for all their fans to enjoy.
If you couldn't afford a ticket or get to the show, all you had to do is just turn on your radio and listen to the show for free.
This is a PIGPEN & KEITH show!
Pigpen does a wonderful job on "The Same Thing". Nice to hear the GRATEFUL DEAD play the "blues".
For a bunch of banjo pickers they somehow got a hold of some real blues licks and chops, must be talent. Garcia makes his guitar "talk" with his slide.
Five stars for the mix, recording, performance, transfer, & "dance-ability".
This is a "Must Have" show for all collectors of 1971 GRATEFUL DEAD.
I recommend using your EQ during playback of most of the shows on the IA, this one included. Windows Media Player has a 10 band EQ and SRS WOW effects that enhance the sound.
Solid, "In the Pocket" performances of all our favorite 71' songs with Pigpen and Keith.
Here's one way to download this show:
The IA recommends users of Windows XP view this web-page with RealPlayer. RealPlayer is a free media player you can download at www.realplayer.com.
For easy streaming or downloading you should use RealPlayer.
Using RealPlayer to view this webpage, click the VBR M3U link to open the songs in the Playlist. If your Playlist is not open, open it by clicking the Playlist icon at the lower right hand corner of RealPlayer. Once the songs are in the Playlist, double click the song to play it, then click the record button at the lower left hand corner of Realplayer to record it. When the red line reaches the other end click the stop button to download the song. Your song is in the RealPlayer Downloads folder. Repeat these steps for each song.
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the LOVE from 1971.
PS: Get em' while you can, get em' while they're free, get em' now or you'll be sorry...the Man giveth and the Man taketh away...WTTW
PSS: Remember to click on the "DeadLists Project" link and get the poster for this show.
Subject: I was there too
Subject: Incredible New Years
Subject: Stellar show, one of the best
Subject: new years 1972
What is not to luv bout this one, amigos?
some reel to reel problemas that'r easily overcome by the beauty and energy of our band...
See, you gotta luv archive.org: Findin this one now --- on 10/5/07??? how is that possible...
Oh, the Jer Bear Jams...and the side comments...
Subject: Good end to a great year
It seems like the tape has been sped up just slightly, at least at moments. Could just be my imagination though. Bottom line, if you like the '71 dead like me, then you will definately enjoy this show.
Subject: Viva Archive.org!!
Subject: Oops! It is a tad fast!
Subject: Just fast enough!
Subject: I just gotta say..
Subject: Where were you on new years eve 71?
Nothing!! I repeat nothing. has ever come close to this particular performance. This is the best quality version of this show I have ever listened to. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH Jonothan Azien. You have made a long time search complete!
Simply a fine capture of the Time and SPAAAAACE:)
A Must Have! for the true connisures. It brings out the flavor/electricity of the first Donna Jean performance with the boys. The banishment of Mickey heart was never a great loss in most of our eyes. Also Pig was very I'll at this time
and it was his last new years show as you know.
His vocals were good quality here and this is a
masterpeice from all concerned. The finest Black Peter, Not Fade Away/goin Down the road I ever wittnessed, and the bands favorite New Years performance!
Get it now!
Terry L. Roberts Esq.
Subject: I'm Sick Of It!
Subject: China Rider Balancing Act
"Only" a 4 because it's missing some of the Pigpen jems one might expect from this era.
Subject: Started on this date for me
Off we went. New YearÃÂs Eve 1971. Winterland, San Francisco. Until the Archive came out I have been wondering for years if it was New Years Eve 1971 or 1972. We got there and only because of the archive, listening to the concert, I remember that at the start of the concert two guys came out with diapers and then pranced around naked. There was actually a middle walkway on the floor that they tried to keep clear. I think that was the only time I saw that in Winterland. It was sold out but not overwhelmingly like later years. After about five songs I was hooked. I had to get to the front. I made my way to around five rows deep right in front of Jerry. I knew his name and I think Pigpen but that was it. I did not know any of their songs. I remember Jerry signing some song about Tennessee. There I stood mesmerized from the middle of the first set to the end of the concert. About five songs before the end of the concert I was just standing there grooving and the girl in front of me, who had her arms around a guy, reaches back and grabs my crotch. I was pretty stunned. What is going on here? I let her hand stay there for a minute or two but was a little concerned about her arm being around the other guy so I removed it. I guess she was spreading love. I look back and think about how I left my friends all night but it was just too fascinating to leave the front. I remember them introducing Keith as their new piano player and Donna as their new singer. And yes, in my first concert I saw Pigpen perform. It turns out that became my only concert that I saw Pigpen. To me, those are big bragging rights for a DeadHead. I saw Pigpen perform with the Dead. Also fascinating to me is that 12/31/71 was just before one of their greatest periods, Europe 72. After 12/31/71 the Dead became a big part of my life. I bought all of their albums and Bob WeirÃÂs Ace album has become my favorite of all time. I want to be buried with that album (cassette/whatever form it is in). After 70 ÃÂ 80 concerts and two years of downloading from GDLive and the Internet Archive I even appreciate them more. Will it ever stop? I donÃÂt know, hasnÃÂt yet.
Subject: this china rider rocks
Subject: speed problems?
Subject: speed problems
Subject: I WAN-CHA TO ROCK ON OUT NOW
Subject: The start of something big
cheap, mono cassette player. Within 30 seconds
I was a confirmed Deadhead - nearly a third of
a century later, I still listen to several hours
of Dead daily.
What was so earth-shaking was that the music sounded extremely familiar to me - in fact,
the overwhelming sensation was a shock of recognition the instant it started. I basically
instantaneously entered the culture - it was
like coming home after being away for years. Very strange.
What's really annoying is not connecting to theDead at an earlier time. I lived in the Northeast in the early Seventies and could have
easily seen every Boston show, Watkins Gen, etc.
Anyhow,a great show. Cosmic Cowboy Dead, one of
their best phases.
Subject: I was at this show
It will always be at the top of my list.
Subject: ths same thing
Subject: best NYE show
Subject: its no 1972!
Subject: That's It For the Other One!!!!!
Other One>Uncle>Other One alone. Get it!
Subject: New Years 71...
Only thing is that there is some chatter from the station DJ's through the show. Not too much but they do chat it up a bit during some songs and in between others. Oh well, it certainly doesn't take away from the recording. Judging by how fun this show sounds, they were probably having the time of their lives too. This is definately one to crank up for New Years. Play it loud! Oh yea- nice Dancin' opener too!
Subject: this show smokes
Subject: Top 5!!
Dr. Flashback ;-)
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